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as for the agora ballroom in question, buddy magazine lied i guess. i’m happy to send a photo of the ticket stub to anybody for verification. it’s worn, but you can clearly ready the address of the venue on the stub.

I want to wrap up the Bluebird. It's not a significant venue historically and we have only one minor artist listed as appearing there. We're both spending too much time on it.

Earlier Club Tango shows moved to to 1986 by taberav who provided the review. It called the venue just "Tango" too.

Earlier Club Tango shows moved to Unknown Venue. The three later shows were created by totally unreliable users with no source given. I plan on moving them to Unknown Venue too unless you veto the idea.

The Simon and Garfunkel show in Houston the previous night that you commented on was cancelled by Hurricane Alicia so I am deleting it.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017/08/18/flashback-simon-and-garfunkel-were-a-bridge-over-troubled-waters-during-hurricane-alicia/

Three different venues in Houston I would say. The theatre info was added by me. Metropole might have been the same as Metropolis but I doubt it.

https://www.houstoniamag.com/travel-and-outdoors/2013/08/houston-by-night-1983-style-august-2013

Do you know who Modern English opened for at this venue? They were touring with Berlin around this time
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/modern-english/1983/reunion-arena-dallas-tx-5b996bf0.html

Oops. I accidentally deleted your venue post with this address. If you know what venue it was please repost it.

11449 North Fwy
Houston, TX 77060

The RHCP show in 1986 eems to have been at Cardi's. No shows from 1982-1986 listed on our website but the flyer seems to confirm it. Very Strange.

http://www.rhcplivearchive.com/show/nov-20-1986-dallas-tx-1562

Scott, being a healthcare worker sucks right now...stress wise...lots of mis-information and panic flying around...it is definitely bad for people 60 and over, or people with underlying health problems like emphysema, COPD, cardiac issues, diabetes....Almost every show I had scheduled days off for has been cancelled or postponed until further notice here in Louisiana as well....schools are shut down until April 13th, restaurants look like ghost towns, and people have gone crazy hoarding food, supplies etc. Some bright spots on the horizon...clinical trials are supposed to start in Washington state tomorrow on a possible vaccine. In 28 years as a frontline healthcare worker, I've been face to face with HIV, AIDS, Hepatitis A, B, C, the Flu, Tuberculosis, and Necrotizing fasciitis (the flesh eating bacteria)...I guess it comes with the job, but I think it's always good to be a little scared, and not get too confident... that's when you start making mistakes.

Since Friday midnight all bars and restaurants are closed till April 3. During weekend non food shops are also closed. With what we know since how it evolved in China, this should have happened much sooner.
At work we only have to go one day a week, rest of the week is telework.

In my opinion the EDS grounds that was where the shows were held was owned by EDS but not technically on the campus itself. But because all contemporaneous listings (and later ones too) always use this (or just Starfest) as the venue that this is what we should use. And the address is the only one given that we should use too especially as the whole area seems to have been changed.

Just letting you know that the Powerman 5000 Texas show you added for January 13th, 2005 never happened. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/powerman-5000/2005/ridglea-theater-fort-worth-tx-5b928380.html
They were originally advertised as a support act for Saliva for a mini Texas tour that month, but the band later confirmed they had to cancel their appearance, due to personal band members related issues. A source of this was saved on a Blabbermouth article from 2005. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-powerman-5000-guitarist-to-join-nine-inch-nails/

So that would seem to indicate that Park Central WAS different from the EDS grounds. They were probably close but not the exact same place.

Here's what I THINK was going on with the Starfest festival/concert series. I think it was held held at the "EDS grounds" until 1985. There are listings in the Dallas Magazine and local newspapers that give that venue. In all instances when they give an address it is 7171 Forest Lane. But from your comments and blog posts I don't believe the venue was on the EDS campus grounds but rather "outside the fence" but probably still on property owned by EDS. I plan on using the 7171 address as it is all we've got.

I'm not concerned with the Starfest being eliminated from the venue name because I have become convinced that (at least for a few years) this was a concert series that was initially organized by the Dallas Symphony Orchestra and it was only much later that it became a true festival. I think when EDS sold the property sometime in 1985 it was never held there again and probably moved to the Park Center. I don't think that was the same venue but am not absolutely positive.

Electronic Data Systems moved to Plano in 1985. I have to do research on the "EDS Grounds" and Starfest. It might not get finished today...but it might.

An amphitheater does not have to be manmade. You could even consider a grassy slope to be an amphitheater. If we were creating the venue from scratch I would probably use Amphitheater as an alias not the venue name but since it is often used on the internet I am leaving it as it is listed now.

Aren't the EDS grounds in Plano? Or were they in Dallas back in the 1980s?

Starfest is an event, not a venue. It shouldn't be used as such. BUT we have literally thousands of events listed as venues and we'll never be able to change them all. But many internet listings only give shows listed like that without the actual venue.

One question we need to answer is was "Starfest" an actual "festival" or a concert series spread out over weeks and were events held at these venues that weren't part of Starfest before we decide the best way to proceed.

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