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No need to trade (though would be lovely :) ) but mainly want to know more about it, and the concert.

Tu me contacté par mail? Je pense qu'il manque une page

Forgot to add:

- The intro to Levitation 21 is just that, an intro improvised on the spot. Tigran is an improvisational jazz artist, so his concerts are indeed always different, and every time he plays Levitation 21, he starts with a short improvisation which transitions into the album version. You can find multiple live versions on YouTube

Hi there,

- The second song is an slow, improvisational arrangement of Old Maps, it's similar in chord structure, it leads into its counterpart New Maps and you can hear it announced for example here (01:28:12) : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/cully-jazz-festival-2022-youn-sun-nah-tigran-hamasyan-trio-25832371.html . Song titles are provided to the radio station by the artist.

- Ara Resurrected and 37 Newlyweds are melodically linked as they use the same melodic theme (i.e. on the album, compare Ara 06:00-07:02 and Newlyweds 00:00-00:12, or Ara 07:21-07:34 and Newlyweds 00:46-00:58. So during live shows Tigran adds bits and pieces of Newlyweds to Ara Resurrected to varying degrees, i.e. at the 15/12 show he played a long solo version of Newlyweds before starting Ara Resurrected. But I agree that on the 16th, he didn't add that much, so I would leave it out.

- The final piece is not Erishta (from the Shadow Theater album) but Erishta Revisited, which didn't appear on an album yet but is part of a few songs Tigran rearranged into a rock version to play live during his Mockroot tour (2014-15)

Kind regards.

Hi, you could argue that during the first encore they played both Our Film and Revisiting the Film but since the latter is incorporated into the former as an extended improvisation during live performances and probably originally started out as just improvising on Our Film, it seems incorrect to add it as a separate song. As for the other missing song, you could argue that a part of 37 Newlyweds was played during Ara Resurrected but it's also just an improvisation on it. For the rest I don't think there are any on the list but please go ahead and correct whatever is necessary. Kind regards.

Hi, I made a mistake adding the songs and the text came out weird, I don't have a lot of experience with this site. Please feel free to add back the performers. And I did attend both 15/12 and 16/12 shows, so I added the songs played. Kind regards.

Hello Deru,

I saw Magma last weekend in London and Manchester where they performed Irina Baladina. I thought that the song Ballade which they played in Leuven could have been the same. But I'm not sure about it. And I have no proof of it.
The new album is scheduled for october.

Could you please change the generic venue Paleis voor Schone Kunsten / Palais des Beaux-Arts Brussels to the actual one in which the concert took place?
Paleis voor Schone Kunsten Henry Le Boeufzaal / Palais des Beaux-Arts Salle Henry Le Boeuf Brussels
Paleis voor Schone Kunsten De Zaal M / Palais des Beaux-Arts Brussels La Salle M Brussels
Cafetaria Paleis voor Schone Kunsten / Cafétaria Palais des Beaux Arts Brussels
Paleis voor Schone Kunsten Terarkenzaal / Palais des Beaux-Arts Les Salles Terarken Brussels
Thanks for helping out to make this site better.

Si tu etais présent tu peux changer le lieu sans problème
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/camel/1981/campus-oefenplein-elsene-ixelles-belgium-13ce1d85.html

Here's where you could buy the DAT soundboard recording:
https://www.dgmlive.com/tour-dates/644

Hello,

If you're referring to the 1996 King Crimson concert, yes, I have the officially released recording of this show.
And the changes I made were based on the tracklist of that release.

Hope this helps.

Oh sorry, I thought that what you wrote was interesting for everyone. I did it with the best intentions.

I don't think btw that it will lead to any kind of controversy, conflicting informations are no problem for these old concerts, as there is often no proven truth available.

Unfortunately I think I can't delete it myself, at least i don't know how. The mods can maybe do that.

That's very sad, as the VdGG fans are searching for these kind of shows, as they are quite rare.

Could you say at least how you recorded it? Taken from the soundboard or just an audience recording in the middle of the audience.

Hi Deru,

I just saw that you have at least 3 recordings of Van der Graaf Generator shows from the 70s, of some interesting concerts of which so far no recording exists. It is possible to get a copy of those?

Le lien a disparu mais est disponible à http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr/bands/chrono/henrycow.html . D'après ce site 18/9/1977 est Udine, Italy.

Hello

Would you know the venues for these Magma https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/magma/1972/unknown-venue-brussels-belgium-2b98787a.html or some of these https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=belgium+unknown+venue ?

I know I didn't mention a source at the time, now I do, long before it was mandatory. And I urge people to put a source for every edit.
Sources became only mandatory about March 2020.
I didn't listen to the audio tape (lack of time), I only downloaded it. If you want I can sent it to you to compare with your recording.

Hello

You are probably correct about Captain Beefheart at V.U.B. I updated the information on the first recording I obtained in 2011, where it was written Auditorium Paul Emile Janson. The second recording listed it as Vrije Universiteit.
Here's the information about the recording
Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band

1980-11-05 Vrije Universiteit, Brussels, Belgium

tracks:

01. Apes-Ma
02. Hair Pie (Bass Solo)
03. Nowadays A Woman's Gotta Hit A Man
04. Abba Zaba
05. Hot Head
06. Ashtray Heart
07. Band Intorductions
08. Dirty Blue Gene
09. Best Batch Yet
10. Safe As Milk
11. Flavor Bud Living
12. Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles
13. One Red Rose That I Mean
14. POEM Untitled
15. Doctor Dark
16. Bat Chain Puller
17. Old Fart At Play
18. My Human Gets Me Blues
19. Sugar 'N Spikes
20. Veteran's Day Poppy
21. Sheriff Of Hong Kong
22. Kandy Korn
23. Suction Prints

total time: 01:26:22

Low Gen Maxell XLIIS > ONKYO TA W460 Cass Deck > harman/kardon standalone burner > cd > EAC > .wav > cd wave for trk splitting > tlh flac level8 > you

tape and transfer: mcchocchoc june 2014

Line-Up:

Don Van Vliet: vocals, tenor saxophone, soprano saxophone, chinese gongs

Eric Drew Feldman: bass guitar, synthesizer, mandolin, mellotron, electric piano

Robert Williams: drums, percussion

Richard Snyder: guitar, slide guitar, bass guitar [on: Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles]

Jeff Moris Tepper: guitar, slide-guitar

Live Guest: Gary Lucas national steel dualion [on: Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles, Flavor Bud Living], bass [November 14, 1980]

notes:

One of the better sounding aud tapes from the European Leg of the 1980/81 Tour. A bit of hiss and the room sounds a bit boomy (as Don mentions a few times). Despite those issues this tape sounds nice! There are a few flaws, nothing major. During trks 13 & 14 there is a bit of "noise" in the right channel. Apes Ma cuts in and is missing a little bit of the top. Sugar 'N Spikes cuts in, but it sounds like all of the music is there. There was a tape flip after Untitled, but no music is missing! Enjoy.
A big thanks to all of my old snail mail trader friends and the person who recorded this!

Merci Alain pour toutes tes précisions, il y a donc quelque chose à corriger sur cette salle bruxelloise, que ce soit pour ce concert en particulier ou à titre général. J'espère que notre expert belge pourra tirer ça au clair.
Bonne année 2021 et à ta disposition pour des échanges constructifs sur setlist.fm !

Bonsoir Alain,
Concernant Éric Estève, son album est le suivant : https://musicbrainz.org/release/ba5b4f21-1bb1-4070-830b-5992198c6c10 peut-être y a-t-il un titre qui te parle par rapport à ton enregistrement ?
Pour Captain Beefheart, si je regarde l'historique de la set list, elle a été créé par "lordevilvenom", qui se présente comme un Américain du Maryland, et qui n'était pas présent au concert. Il avait créé le concert au "Vrije Universiteit Brussels" et un modérateur, "leglessmoof" a fusionné cette salle avec l'Auditoire Paul-Emile Janson, ce qui signifie qu'il s'agit de la même salle et que la première désignation est incorrecte et que la seconde est la bonne. Cependant, "Vrije Universiteit Brussels" correspond aux initiales "V.U.B. Aula Zaal Q" indiquées sur ton ticket.
Donc ma question est : est-ce bien la même salle ? Les Guidelines indiquant que le nom de la salle doit être celui de l'époque, même si elle a été renommée plus tard, il conviendrait donc de revenir sur cette fusion.
Tu pouurais peut-être soumettre la question à notre modérateur belge dirkvandamme ?